From: http://www.luga.at/reports/rm-the-sco-lug-page/email10.html
"What happens when you read some doc and either it doesn't answer your
question or is demonstrably wrong? In Linux, you say "Linux sucks" and go
read the code. In Windows/Oracle/etc you say "Windows sucks" and
start banging your head against the wall."
--- Denis Vlasenko on lkml
From: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1492682,00.asp
I am grinning a grin that should frighten the theives and
liars at SCO out of a week's sleep.
--- Eric S Raymond in reference to his
"comparator" program when used to compare
Unix to Linux source code in a legal setting.
From: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug2004/tc20040818_1593.htm
Q: What makes you believe Linux will continue to gain momentum?
A: I think, fundamentally, open source does tend to be more stable
software. It's the right way to do things. I compare it to science
vs. witchcraft. In science, the whole system builds on people looking
at other people's results and building on top of them. In witchcraft,
somebody had a small secret and guarded it -- but never allowed others
to really understand it and build on it.
Traditional software is like witchcraft. In history, witchcraft just
died out. The same will happen in software. When problems get serious
enough, you can't have one person or one company guarding their
secrets. You have to have everybody share in knowledge.
--- Linus Torvalds
From: http://www.linuxworld.com/story/44851.htm
"Ok, I admit it. I was just a front-man for the real fathers of Linux,
the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus."
From: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/05/05/interview_brian_behlendorf_cofounder_of_apache.html
If you're referring to SCO's challenges, I think it's becoming clear that
it's all been hogwash. I suspect the claims that the GPL "violates the
U.S. Constitution" will get recorded in some historical analysis of
corporate Tourette's syndrome.
From: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040322133607169
Microsoft should be really anxious that to the own company
something does not remain sticking from the Gestank of the SCO.
--- Computer interpretation of Microsoft and SCO
From: http://www.slweekly.com/editorial/2004/feat_2004-01-22.cfm
I've been pounding the table here for a year or so saying there's
no free lunch, and there is going to be a day of reckoning for
every company that thinks they are going to try and sell a free
model."
That's Darl McBride, president and CEO of the SCO Group, a
perennial loser at selling UNIX and, until recently, Linux
operating systems.
From: http://www.vnunet.com/News/1151577
In October, RBC and investment company BayStar Capital Partners
pumped $50m into the law firm, partly to cover the litigation costs.
--- Hmmm. The investors knew where the money
was going, or SCO is in a new line of buisness.
From: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2003121122033016
And I've also taken note of the statements that are included
in the submissions which indicate that certain representations
have been made by SCO to the media.
From: http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/12/04/HNmcbrideletter_1.html
If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage
unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the
commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably
is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution.
From: http://comment.zdnet.co.uk/rupertgoodwins/0,39020691,39118030-2,00.htm
With SCO spraying out threats of legal action like a tomcat
on diuretics, this latest piece of territorial widdle.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031119041719640
"Never tangle with a geek when source code is on the line."
http://www.crn.com/sections/BreakingNews/dailyarchives.asp?ArticleID=46153
Our goal is not to blow up Linux. People ask why we don't go after the
distributors...'If you have such a strong case, why not shut down
Red Hat?' Our belief is that SCO has great opportunity in the future
to let Linux keep going, not to put it on its back but for us to get
a transaction fee every time it's sold. That's really our goal.
--- Darl explaining he is a leach on society
From: http://www.forbes.com/2003/11/13/cz_dl_1113sco.html?partner=yahoo&referrer=
Oddly enough, on Nov. 11, SCO Executive Vice President Christopher
Sontag complained to Forbes about IBM's decision to send subpoenas
to investors and analysts who supported SCO. Sontag called the move
"an attempt to bully and intimidate" and said IBM was engaged in
"legal gamesmanship."
So why didn't Sontag mention that, uh, SCO itself was about to
target Torvalds and Stallman with subpoenas? SCO's spokesman says
Sontag and Darl McBride, SCO's chief executive, did not know that
SCO's lawyers were planning the move.
--- Darl out of the decision making loop
From: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=80150&threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=106&tid=185&mode=thread&cid=7069586
Even though SCO has refused to undergo the technical equivalent of DNA
testing, and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all
over Linux.
Some of it is a bit scary: just the fact that your question equated
sharing with something bad is a pretty scary statement in itself.
So either we should make it a law that all geeks have dates -- I'd
have supported such a law when I was a teenager -- or the blame is
really on the companies who sell and install the systems that are
quite that fragile.
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely
unintentional side effect.
From: http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/31599.html
The perception that SCO has not been forthcoming about its
allegations is false, SCO CEO Darl McBride said. "Are we
trying to conceal things? No, it's actually the other way
around. We're trying to be extremely open."
--- Darl talking about the missing
code, missing MIT people, missing...
From: http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,84292,00.html
Darl McBride, SCO's president and CEO, acknowledged in an interview
that the Lindon, Utah-based company's Unix technology needs to be
revitalized. "It's like a house that hasn't been maintained in a few
years," McBride said. "We're going to come back and spruce the place up."
--- Darl explaining the great points of
his product line
The plans include the shipment next year of a more fully featured
operating system, code-named SCO OpenServer Legend, plus other new
technologies. McBride said he hopes the new releases will convince
users that SCO is still a good bet for the future.
--- "Open"Server. What's open?
From: http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13100265
The silent majority is behind SCO, and they're hoping that SCO
prevails in the end...
--- Darl McBride,
chief twit Executive Officer of SCO.
From: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030807/lath091_1.html
We view IBM's counterclaim filing today as an effort to distract
attention from its flawed Linux business model. It repeats the
same unsubstantiated allegations made in Red Hat's filing earlier
this week.
--- SCO regarding IBM's suit. Note that as
of this time, SCO has not made any substantiated
claims in their filings agains IBM and
the world.
From: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/08/05/1721238.shtml?tid=106&tid=185&tid=187&tid=88&tid=98&tid=99
Hello Mountian Home AFB?
by LWATCDR (28044) on Tuesday August 05, @04:55PM (#6619676)
SCO: We hear you have been adding code to Linux and
have even used it in house. We have a large bill
for you that you have to pay or we will sue you.
NSA: That is very interesting we will give you our
answer in about an hour. CLICK
Mountain Home AFB: Mountian Home Air Force Base how can I help you?
NSA: This is the NSA we have a terrorist take over in Utah.
Mountian Home AFB: Is it SCO?
NSA: Yes; have you already heard?
Mountian Home AFB: Yea they have already called the Army to try and
bill them. They even called some of the Oil Companies
and that got the White House involved.
NSA: So you have already tasked a strike mission?
Mountian Home AFB: No need. They also sent a bill to Disney! They
will never know what hit them. Have a nice day.
From: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030805/latu094_1.html
Because the SCO license authorizes run-time use only, customers
also comply with the General Public License, under which Linux
is distributed.
From: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/06/19/1245254.shtml?tid=106&tid=185&tid=187&tid=88
Is it just me? Or does SCO seem to be more and more like the
black knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
IBM: You fought well sir knight, but the battle is mine.
SCO: Tis but a scratch!
IBM: A scratch?! I just took your arm off!
SCO: It's just a flesh wound!
From: http://features.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-02-22-004-05-NW-0003
Note that these releases are not open source. SCO retain rights to
the source code. Maybe they even hope that some of their code will
wind up in linux, so that they can then sue, and render the Linux
license terms invalid. Or would they be that spiteful?
My guess == yes.
--- Bill Baxter - Not Open Source, I'm afraid.
(Feb 23, 2000, 00:01:50)
In a discussion about SCO making available
some old copies of Unix source code.
From: www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111083,00.asp
Sontag would not say which specific parts of Unix SCO believes were
copied, but he did say that the work appeared to have been done by
a company other than IBM.
--- Chris Sontag, SCO's general manager of SCOsource
explaining why SCO is suing IBM over trade secret
violations done by a party other than IBM
From: http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1016706.html?tag=nl
"We would also have the right to make all the AIX licenses
(that IBM's) customers have invalid, but at this point in
time, we have chosen not to exercise that option," Stowell
said. "We view the customers as innocent bystanders in this,
but that doesn't mean we won't invoke that right at some time."
--- SCO saying that they will shoot innocent
bystanders if they don't get what they
want from the store clerk.
From: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6923&mode=thread&order=0
RECIPIENT acknowledges that it will receive access only to a portion of
information relevant to these issues.
--- SCO's NDA for access to some of the relevant
information, but not other relevant information.
From: www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,81695,00.html
Quite frankly, I found it mostly interesting in a Jerry Springer
kind of way. White trash battling it out in public, throwing chairs
at each other. SCO crying about IBM's other women. ...
Fairly entertaining,"
From: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BC408959E-005A-4E93-9006-B32DCD1FCA22%7D&siteid=yhoo
McBride added that unless more companies start licensing SCO's
property, he may also sue Linus Torvalds, who is credited with
inventing the Linux operating system, for patent infringement.
--- SCO's Darl McBride pouting
From: http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1011263.html?tag=fd_top
Torvalds, meanwhile, said he sees legal action against him as
ineffectual but not inconceivable. "I don't see what (SCO) would
expect to gain from suing me, but they don't seem to be acting
very rationally," he wrote in an e-mail interview.
--- Linus responding to McBride's comment of
suing him.
From: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BC408959E-005A-4E93-9006-B32DCD1FCA22%7D&siteid=yhoo
We believe it unlikely that SCO can demonstrate that it
has any ownership whatsoever in those copyrights
--- Jack Messman, Novell's chief executive
on SCO's claim that they own Unix
From: comment.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t479-s2134763,00.html
... it would appear that SCO has about the same grasp of reality as did the
infamous Iraqi information minister, Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, in the closing
days of the war in Iraq. Indeed, pity SCO's PR boss who has to explain why
that code distributed by SCO under the GPL licence contained code that SCO
has the rights to, and they'd like it back now, please.
From: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/24/1050777342086.html
Some features about software covered by the [MicroSoft Windows XP] EULA:
* copying was prohibited
* could be used only on one computer with a maximum of 2 processors
* cannot be used as a webserver or fileserver
* required registration after 30 days
* could stop working if hardware changes were made
* updates could change the EULA if the company so wished
* could be transferred to another user only once
* the new user must agree to the license terms (no specification how this could be achieved)
* imposes limitations on reverse engineering
* gives Microsoft rights to collect information about the system and the its use
* gives Microsoft the right to supply this information to other organisations
* gives Microsoft the right to make changes to the computer without having to ask.
* warranty for the first 90 days
* fixes, updates or patches carry no warranty
Some features found in the GPL:
* freedom to copy, modify and redistribute the software
* precludes one party from preventing another from having these same freedoms
* provides coverage for rights of users to copy, modify and redistribute the software
* no warranty as there is no fee
* can be sold if the user so decides and services for such software can be charged for
* any patents must be licensed for everyone's use or not licensed at all
* modified software must carry no licence fees
* source code must be provided
* if there is a change in license, the general terms of the existing one will be maintained.
From: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/04/24/1312231.shtml?tid=106
There, I've said it. I'm out of the closet. So bring it on...
--- Linus Torvalds
Taking things out of context for fun and profit.
From: "CARUS M. (221556)"
"The box said that I needed to have Windows 98 or better...
so I installed Linux."
From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1507000/1507326.stm
So Mr Torvalds created Linux to be a cheap, cheerful and compact
version of Unix that really could run on lots of different pieces of
hardware with very few changes.
[I like the part about cheerful.]
From: Alan Cox
"I had a letter in the post today. It said 'Gas Bill'.
It sounds a tempting offer"
From: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-05-04-013-20-PR-CY-MS
taking advice on what the GPL means from Microsoft is like taking
Stalin's word on the meaning of the US Constitution.
From: web.siliconvalley.com/content/sv/2001/05/03/opinion/dgillmor/weblog/torvalds.htm
I'd rather listen to [Isaac] Newton than to [MicroSoft's] Mundie. He may
have been dead for almost three hundred years, but despite that he stinks
up the room less.
--- Linus talking about MicroSoft's rant about
open source software.
From: CRN Magazine
CRN: MicroSoft CEO Steve Ballmer has finally said Linux is the No. 1
threat to Windows. What's your response to that?
Linus: "Tag, you're it." I don't care. They've had a lot of enemies
in their time. Let them fight one enemy that doesn't care for
a change.
From: Sam Holden
testing? What's that? If it compiles, it is good, if it boots up it is
perfect.
From: Nik Weidenbacher
The memory management on the PowerPC can be used to frighten small children.
From: Randy Edwards
"If the current stylistic distinctions between open-source and commercial
software persist, an open-software revolution could lead to yet another
divide between haves and have-nots: those with the skills and connections
to make use of free software, and those who must pay high prices for
increasingly dated commercial offerings."
From: Jason Costomiris
Linux...
"Find out what you've been missing while you've been rebooting Windows NT."
From: Sam Holden
PC's are backwards ... throw them out! Linux is ok though.
--- Rob Pike (on the subject of CR/LF etc)
From: Paul Tomblin
"The Windows NT workstations locked up every 2.58 minutes...The Linux
workstations [which replaced them] haven't had a problem"
--- Randy Kessell, SBC Communications Inc.
From: Dave Regan
A collection of penguins live at http://www.ao.com/~regan/penguins/
From: Vinod Valloppillil
Linux represents a best-of-breed UNIX, that is trusted in mission
critical applications, and - due to it's open source code - has a
long term credibility which exceeds many other competitive OS's.
--- Vinod Valloppillil
of MicroSoft Corp.
See: http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween2.html
From: Vinod Valloppillil
I previously had IE4/NT4 on the same box and by comparison the
combination of Linux / Navigator ran at least 30-40% faster
when rendering simple HTML + graphics.
--- Vinod Valloppillil
of MicroSoft Corp.
See: http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween2.html
From: Tom Christiansen
"Software is like sex: It's better when it's free."
--- Linus Torvalds, from FSF T-shirt
From: Tethys
``There appear to be few if any technical reasons to move from UNIX to
Windows NT. The performance of Linux exceeds that of NT 4.0 and Linux
appears to be more reliable.''
--- David Korn, AT&T, author of ksh
From: George Bonser
"Well, let's just say, 'if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't
want Linux'".
--- Bruce Perens, Debian's Fearless Leader
From: Martin Radford
"Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff
on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)"
From: Thomas Benavides A
... when men were men
and wrote their own device driver ...
--- Linus Benedict Torvalds
From: Frank Lofaro) + others
>
> > I was wondering if there is a good source of info about Linux
> > and security. Preferrably free but I would like to know how
> > to set up accounts and create groups and make sure that my
> > system isn't holy!
>
>Use curses, and run lots of daemons.
And make sure to have shadow passwords, skeleton accounts, zombie
processes and ghostscript too.
Also run SATAN, a security testing program (isn't that ironic, makes
sure your system isn't either holey or holy! :)
Allow hosts of which's.
And make sure there are no nice processes.
Oh, and don't forget to replace true with false.
From: Tim Ruckle
Hah! Commies are the least of your worries. We also have cows, frogs
and Andy Tanenbaum. As you know, this last person is responsible for
Minix and so ultimately for Linux by driving Linus Thorvalds mad.
--- J.J. Paijmans (paai@kub.nl)
From: Joe Sloan
I am using Linux every day to up my productivity - so up yours!
A linux machine! because a 486 is a terrible thing to waste!
From: Benjamin Ryzman
******** W A R N I N G ! **************************************
Linux should not be used by those under the influence of MicroSoft.
May cause dizziness or vertigo. Consult your tech support before
using Linux. (note--after using Linux, you may notice extreme
discomfort when using MicroSoft. Discontinue use of MicroSoft.)
************************************** W A R N I N G ! ********
From: Vincent Stemen
MSDOS = MicroShafts Distribution of Sh.. ********** Try Linux ! ************
From: Gregory Ade
From the Linux getopt(3) manpage:
"BUGS
This manpage is confusing."
From: Fergus James HENDERSON
Linux: Choice of a GNU Generation
From: Steve Byrne
Try Linux: The Soul of a GNU Machine
From: Jurgen Botz
"Unix? What's that? Is that like Linux?"
From: Brandon S. Allbery
It's not too late to turn back from the "Gates" of Hell...
Linux: the free 32-bit operating system, available NOW.
Why waaaaaait for NT?
From: Jan-Pieter Cornet
Actual quote: "Linux was made by foreign terrorists to steal money
from true AMERICAN companies like Microsoft who invented
computing as we know it, and are being punished for
their success..."
Linux -- "It's computing, Jim, but not as we know it"
From: "Wayne O. Cochran"
"Windows is packaged with Solitaire (ooh)!
Linux is distributed with Doom ... you can have your deck of cards,
I'll take a chainsaw!"
--- paraphrase from comp.os.linux.advocacy
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